tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6257578024925559189.post5725078325810996362..comments2023-08-03T03:59:01.255-04:00Comments on Democratic Voting Canada: Proportional Representation (true voting) in a nutshellRon Wallerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08120060083437508997noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6257578024925559189.post-76876184666560337412014-05-02T12:23:42.835-04:002014-05-02T12:23:42.835-04:00Thanks for the clarification.
I think the best ch...Thanks for the clarification.<br /><br />I think the best chance we have of bringing real democracy to Canada is by letting Canadians decide. That is with a 3 x 3 referendum with a runoff vote. <br /><br />The 3 main voting systems are: PR, ranked ballot voting and FPTP. The 3 PR systems are: party-list, MMP and STV. The runoff vote will have the top two systems and top two versions of PR to ensure a full system is chosen by a majority.<br /><br />If we let an unelected citizens' assembly choose everything for us, most Canadians whose choice is not on the ballot will opt for the status quo. This is the reason there have been 5 failed two-way referendums in Canada and the UK. Even with PR, there are people who will vote for the status quo if their particular version is not on the ballot.<br /><br />By putting all the chips on the table, it will force voters to choose the lesser of evils knowing their option is no longer viable. New Zealand had a similar two-referendum process. But they gave FPTP a bigger advantage than was warranted.<br /><br />It takes democracy to get democracy. If a federal referendum fails, it will be decades before another chance comes along.Ron Wallerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08120060083437508997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6257578024925559189.post-61685688653494190732014-05-02T11:31:18.832-04:002014-05-02T11:31:18.832-04:00All true. However, you refer to "lists in eac...All true. However, you refer to "lists in each province to ensure regional representation" as a part of both party-list PR and MMP. To be clear, the lists are in each province or region. Scotland has regional lists in each group of 16 MPs, Wales in 12. So in Canada, you could picture Ontario with nine regions, such as: one for Central Toronto--Scarborough, one for Northern Toronto--Etobicoke, one for York and Durham Regions, one for Peel--Halton, one for Hamilton--Waterloo--Niagara, one for Ottawa--Cornwall--Pembroke, one for London--Windsor--Brant, one for Central and Mid-East Ontario, and one for Northern Ontario. A region with 14 MPs might have nine local MPs and five additional regional MPs. <br />http://wilfday.blogspot.ca/2013/11/the-law-commission-of-canadas.html Wilf Dayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546880754492040363noreply@blogger.com